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in certain states in the obama campaign has this year is a major advance part of the way the people have tested messages mr. quaid is you have a poll that asks somebody who they support and then it tells them a bunch of information and asks them again who do you support and you see if anybody moves or you ask them directly. if i told you that mitt romney had not paid taxes for x number of years would make you less likely to vote for him and some percentage of people either move when they hear of the new information or the tell you they wouldn't move. people telling you that they wouldn't move is a pretty sort of conjecture will thing. i wouldn't trust anybody that told you what they would do under a hypothetical scenario learned some information. they may or may not already know. and that is part of the problem of the polls they ask people if you know a piece of information you may or may not already know. and so in our focus groups, you bring somebody in the and show them and add and ask them again and change their mind. now you are prompting somebody to change their mind and they
in certain states in the obama campaign has this year is a major advance part of the way the people have tested messages mr. quaid is you have a poll that asks somebody who they support and then it tells them a bunch of information and asks them again who do you support and you see if anybody moves or you ask them directly. if i told you that mitt romney had not paid taxes for x number of years would make you less likely to vote for him and some percentage of people either move when they hear...
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in certain states, but using them in a presidential campaign as he obama campaign has this year is a major advance. part of the problem with the way that people have tested messages historically is that you either have a poll that asked some of who they support, and it tells them a bunch of defamation and to ask. >> into sport and you see anybody those. before you ask directly if i told you that mitt romney hasn't paid taxes for x number of years, would it make you more or less likely to vote for him? some% of people either move when they hear that a mesh or they tell you they wouldn't. people telling you that they would move is a pretty sort of conjectural thing. i wouldn't cognitive growth anyone who told you what they would do under hypothetical senate and given some information. they may or may not already know. that's part of the problem with those polls is that asked people if new piece of -- you may or may not already know. and so, or in focus groups you bring somebody in an jafa doesn't people and show them and add and ask them again, did anyone change their mind. and you're
in certain states, but using them in a presidential campaign as he obama campaign has this year is a major advance. part of the problem with the way that people have tested messages historically is that you either have a poll that asked some of who they support, and it tells them a bunch of defamation and to ask. >> into sport and you see anybody those. before you ask directly if i told you that mitt romney hasn't paid taxes for x number of years, would it make you more or less likely to...
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the obama campaign had not one yet this year. i just think that this is really hard work to go -- many of them left for chicago about two years ago. and it's, you know, some people may describe it in the news as a flog. i imagine it is. it's probably really hard to go that long and have that one day at the very end. and i can't imagine, you know, and so that's a difference. i don't know yet. that's there. at this point, you had 58, 57 or 58 tests of us you could see how we were doing. we haven't had that yet for the obama campaign. even romney had races under his belt. we have a sense how the organization is working. i expect it's a tight organization. and i think romney's, you know, has had a lot of the same challenges we had in 2008 than this campaign has in 2012. that's the difference between those. in terms of the different i think your question was the romney and obama this time; right? well, there are two different campaigns. one is challenging campaign and one is an incumbent campaign. i think romney, if i was just to, you
the obama campaign had not one yet this year. i just think that this is really hard work to go -- many of them left for chicago about two years ago. and it's, you know, some people may describe it in the news as a flog. i imagine it is. it's probably really hard to go that long and have that one day at the very end. and i can't imagine, you know, and so that's a difference. i don't know yet. that's there. at this point, you had 58, 57 or 58 tests of us you could see how we were doing. we...
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has made from the time barack obama -- candidates obama. four years ago he was the candidate of change and running against the war in iraq, running against in october and september october and economic collapse, he found a new way to appeal to voters through social media and certainly energized and enthusiastically captured young voters. now as we turn to this campaign clearly he has -- i am sorry. a very different picture. emerges as the incumbent in the white house. clearly he can't be the change candidate. he is governing in difficult times, not only domestically but in terms of unexpected international events we have all witnessed in the last couple weeks. a prolonged and halting economic recovery. what we have seen in our polls, young voters -- he is getting a comparable share of the younger voters that he got four years ago, it is a smaller slice of the pie which in poll talk is younger voters are falling out of the likely voter models so there are fewer of them all the obama is getting the overwhelming majority of them. factors in ob
has made from the time barack obama -- candidates obama. four years ago he was the candidate of change and running against the war in iraq, running against in october and september october and economic collapse, he found a new way to appeal to voters through social media and certainly energized and enthusiastically captured young voters. now as we turn to this campaign clearly he has -- i am sorry. a very different picture. emerges as the incumbent in the white house. clearly he can't be the...
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barack obama had by far the hardest media coverage. so they sit around and four years they claim the media is rigging the election. here is my question how did george bush get elected twice if the media rigs the election. >> jennifer: but you have to admit that somebody who is not affiliated with either side of the aisle, that look at this and the right is complaining, the left is complaining. where do they debt an honest assessment? >> campaigns that are not doing well, get bad press. if you run bad campaigns, you get bad prez -- press. just watch the news itself. unless it's fox news most of the coverage is very straightforward, and you can tell who is telling the truth and who isn't. >> jennifer: eric boehlert, senior fellow of media matters for america, thank you so much for joining us inside "the war room" this evening. coming up digging up dirt on mitt romney is a hard job but somebody has to do it, and that's brett ehrlich. he's next. jennifer speaks truth to power. >>the bottom line is we need an amendment. >>now it's your turn
barack obama had by far the hardest media coverage. so they sit around and four years they claim the media is rigging the election. here is my question how did george bush get elected twice if the media rigs the election. >> jennifer: but you have to admit that somebody who is not affiliated with either side of the aisle, that look at this and the right is complaining, the left is complaining. where do they debt an honest assessment? >> campaigns that are not doing well, get bad...
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i can't believe i'm saying that -- >> president obama -- promised he would not raise middle class taxes. in his affordable care act, there are a number of tax increases that will impact households making less than $250,000 per year. you can parse that and say, it's note a tax increase the way i talked, that's something else. the thing is, one thing or another, is it a tax increase or not? it certainly is through the tax system. it is impacting some middle class households. did you lie? he's going to say, no, i did not lie. >> and that's fine, if you say something, you call him out on it. here's the deal, romney is not going to try to bring it up in the debate. nor will president obama. the moment you do, have you opened the door for your opponent. >> you have to look in the mirror, it's an ugly picture. >> the responsibility is going to rest on the debate mod rater who is not going to do it. >> what people are saying is, can i get somebody to tell me the truth? i will say this here. you can parse words all you want to. there are some things called undeniable truth. no matter how you wan
i can't believe i'm saying that -- >> president obama -- promised he would not raise middle class taxes. in his affordable care act, there are a number of tax increases that will impact households making less than $250,000 per year. you can parse that and say, it's note a tax increase the way i talked, that's something else. the thing is, one thing or another, is it a tax increase or not? it certainly is through the tax system. it is impacting some middle class households. did you lie?...
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every four years they rediscover us, hispanics, and then they forget about us for three years and then they rediscover us again. >> yet, as the news reported this week, we discussed it earlier, this is still shocking. president obama holds a 73-21% lead over mitt romney among latino voters. that's up from the 65-26 advantage he held six weeks ago. >> latino's will decide the election in colorado, nevada, north carolina, florida. >> because? >> because in a very close election latino voters tend to decide which way to vote. it happened in 2000 with president george w. bush in florida and it's going to happen again this year. >> there was a report from the pew hispanic center a few days ago saying a record 24 million, 24 million latinos are eligible to vote. >> right. >> but their turnout rate has consistently lagged behind whites and blacks. >> not that much. the latino decision polls are usually very accurate because they're polling specifically latino voters, registered voters and the unthus see amp level was very low. in the last poll it had increased to 82%. >> that's understandable
every four years they rediscover us, hispanics, and then they forget about us for three years and then they rediscover us again. >> yet, as the news reported this week, we discussed it earlier, this is still shocking. president obama holds a 73-21% lead over mitt romney among latino voters. that's up from the 65-26 advantage he held six weeks ago. >> latino's will decide the election in colorado, nevada, north carolina, florida. >> because? >> because in a very close...
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four years, obama has been talking. four years the iranians have it happened to build -- >> bill: no doubt about it. they thumbed their nose at him. >> north korea route. >> colonel hunt, i certainly understand that model, but iran is different. north korea doesn't threaten the world economy, the world oil supplies. they weren't led by meeseianic nut cases. they didn't have this -- >> ralph, you're -- >> bill: the north korea had a restraining agent in that sense does to this day and that's china. there is no restraining agent on iran at all. none. >> but guy, iran has hezbollah and hamas, if they uncork them, hezbollah in lebanon and hamas in palestine and float one of their three submarines in the strait of arrest had you seen, you have real problems. my point is that if you bomb, if the israelis go to bomb, there is no success. the only way to get at those bunkers is nuclear bunker busters and nobody is going to throw nukes at iran. my point is there is so much more to do against iran than talk about -- >> bill: look
four years, obama has been talking. four years the iranians have it happened to build -- >> bill: no doubt about it. they thumbed their nose at him. >> north korea route. >> colonel hunt, i certainly understand that model, but iran is different. north korea doesn't threaten the world economy, the world oil supplies. they weren't led by meeseianic nut cases. they didn't have this -- >> ralph, you're -- >> bill: the north korea had a restraining agent in that sense...
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fo years, obama has bee talking. four years the iranians he it happed to build -- >> bill: no doubt about it. they thumbed their nose at him >> north korea route. >> colonel hunt, i certainly undersnd tt del, but iran is different. enomy, the world oilhreaten the supplies. they y meeseianic nut cases. ey didn't havehis -- >> ralph you're -- >> bill: theor korea had a restraining agent in that sense does to is day and that's ina. there is no resaining agent on iran at all >>uy, iran has hezbollah an hamas,if them, hezbol lebanon and hamas in palestinend float one of their three submarine in the straithad yo seen yove real problems. point ithatf youomb,f the israelis go to bomb, there is no success. thonly way toet at those bunker busters and nobody is going to throw nukes at iran. my point ithere isuch reoo d iran than talk about -- >> bl: look, you can carpet bomb them and knock out a their infrastructur you n certainlydo that. >> ii pushing the israelis intaorner of the think there is an outside chance that they wil
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>>reporter: president obama said he would cut the deficit in half this four years. that has not happened. he is vulnerable on a lot of the key issues. that will be a big part of this face off tonight. >>shepard: thank you, ed henry. as governor romney finishes the debate preparations in the city they are hitting his opponent over the comments from vice president biden. the romney camp calling the remarks about the middle class a stunning admission much he is a spokesman early here on fox news. >> we cannot afford four more years like the last four years we have seen under this president. his own vice president said the middle class has been buried under his policies. what we need is governor romney could come in and deliver a real recovery for the american people. >>shepard: romney campaign trying to capitalize on the remarks about the struggling of the middle class, a theme to be repeated, likely, over and over tonight. now, carl cameron live at the debate spin room. how will the governor romney hammer those comments of the vice president? >>carl: depends how the d
>>reporter: president obama said he would cut the deficit in half this four years. that has not happened. he is vulnerable on a lot of the key issues. that will be a big part of this face off tonight. >>shepard: thank you, ed henry. as governor romney finishes the debate preparations in the city they are hitting his opponent over the comments from vice president biden. the romney camp calling the remarks about the middle class a stunning admission much he is a spokesman early here...
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which you can't mram president obama for in totality his first year that he inherited this big mess. now it's down to 7.8%. doesn't that show that he is on the right trajectory and kind of undermining the central argument for you? >> oh, i don't think so. you know, it's like this, candy. if you are getting blown out in a football game but you are scoring field goals once a quarter, you can't point to the three points every quarter and say at least we're scoring some points. we're still getting clobbered. the fact of the matter is the president and joe biden are getting clobbered on policies they put in place. we're nowhere close. i was in wisconsin yesterday. been in ohio practically of other day. i'll tell you what, people in kenosha, wisconsin, and ohio don't feel better off today than they were four years ago, and they don't think this president has been very good at following through on his promises. that's what this is going to come down to, and i'll tell you what, last week you saw the difference. an unfiltered mitt romney and an unfiltered barack obama. you saw inspiration, he
which you can't mram president obama for in totality his first year that he inherited this big mess. now it's down to 7.8%. doesn't that show that he is on the right trajectory and kind of undermining the central argument for you? >> oh, i don't think so. you know, it's like this, candy. if you are getting blown out in a football game but you are scoring field goals once a quarter, you can't point to the three points every quarter and say at least we're scoring some points. we're still...
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the latest polls among registered voters put obama and romney dead even. >>> sdusky speaks. hours before being sentenced on 45 counts of child sexual abuse, the 68-year-old proclaims his innocence. >>> and curious discovery. the mars rover finds a bright object on the surface, but what the mars rover finds a bright object on the surface, but what exactly is it? captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> hello and good morning. i'm lynn berry. and the race is on. the 2012 presidential election is just four weeks away, and now new polls show the race between president obama and republican rival mitt romney is closer than ever. nbc's tracie potts has the latest on this. >>> lynn, good morning. it depends which polls you're looking at. a new pew research poll shows romney got a boost. gallup has the president up five points. they think he got a boost after the positive jobs report. mitt romney in virginia yesterday, he moves on today to iowa and ohio, but in virginia he gave a foreign policy speech where he said the world is more dangerous now because of the president's p
the latest polls among registered voters put obama and romney dead even. >>> sdusky speaks. hours before being sentenced on 45 counts of child sexual abuse, the 68-year-old proclaims his innocence. >>> and curious discovery. the mars rover finds a bright object on the surface, but what the mars rover finds a bright object on the surface, but what exactly is it? captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> hello and good morning. i'm lynn berry. and the race is...
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and it became evident to me in early 2010 from about a year after obama took office. three things happen. the first was from the united states supreme court. i think no person in the united states i can think of has benefited more from the supreme court of karl rove. two decisions. one in 2000 obviously with bush v. gore put his candidate in the white house and two, in 2010, citizens united decision. that opened the floodgates for contribution -- unlimited contributions. in many cases from secret sources is no transparency with the weather, that is just unprecedented in history. the second thing that happened with michael still running the applicant party instead of running it in to ditch and he couldn't raise the time and it came to his favor early in 2010. you may recall there was a revelation in los angeles that the republican national committee has been entertaining at at a lesbian bondage themed strip club. this did not work well, so they could not raise a dime. this gave for his opening. so he had a luncheon at his house in the weaver terrace. it was cohosted by
and it became evident to me in early 2010 from about a year after obama took office. three things happen. the first was from the united states supreme court. i think no person in the united states i can think of has benefited more from the supreme court of karl rove. two decisions. one in 2000 obviously with bush v. gore put his candidate in the white house and two, in 2010, citizens united decision. that opened the floodgates for contribution -- unlimited contributions. in many cases from...
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has kept in place by keeping those budget-busting bush tax cuts as part of our system these four years. neither one of them will talk about our incarceration rate in this country. it's a huge problem. we have 2--almost 2.4 million people behind bars and there are racist implication there is with the war on drugs, which is a completely failed policy. neither of these parties will talk about it, but it impacts millions of people. we have a half million people now in prison and jail because of drug offenses. when the war on drugs was first commenced, there were fewer than 40,000 now there are over 500,000 people behind bars. three out of four people, although blacks and whites do drugs at the same rate. the studies show that. three out of four people imprisoned on drug offenses are black people. 50%-- >> cenk: we're out of time, but i got to ask you one more question. president obama is he a liberal a centrist or in your opinion is he right wing. >> i think he's way right of center. this man has violated every promise he made. every major promise whether it had to do with the military, th
has kept in place by keeping those budget-busting bush tax cuts as part of our system these four years. neither one of them will talk about our incarceration rate in this country. it's a huge problem. we have 2--almost 2.4 million people behind bars and there are racist implication there is with the war on drugs, which is a completely failed policy. neither of these parties will talk about it, but it impacts millions of people. we have a half million people now in prison and jail because of...
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those were extended in 2010 and expire at the end of the year. there's the temporary cut in social security payroll taxes. that was done as stimulus for 2011 and extended for 2012. and then in addition to all those expiring tax provisions from a fiscal mariah macroeconomic point of view -- and so when you look at the debate over the phis clal cliff the point is recognized there's a diverse array of tax provisions under discussion. and that's important both for understanding the effects hones house hold dpircht house hold are effected differently by provision. at the low end for example, credit that were enacted in 2009 turned out to be important. as does the temporary cut in payroll taxes. they continue to be important for folks in the middle range of income, but that point also the 2001, 2003 tax cuts are important and if you go to the high end of the income distribution in addition to the 2001, 2003 tax cuts that affected high income folks, both on ordinary income on invictoria'sinvestment health care. depending what sly in the income distribut
those were extended in 2010 and expire at the end of the year. there's the temporary cut in social security payroll taxes. that was done as stimulus for 2011 and extended for 2012. and then in addition to all those expiring tax provisions from a fiscal mariah macroeconomic point of view -- and so when you look at the debate over the phis clal cliff the point is recognized there's a diverse array of tax provisions under discussion. and that's important both for understanding the effects hones...
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and the obama years, that would be. he later tried to walk the statement back, saying the middle class was buried by policies supported by mitt romney and paul ryan. joining us now is congressman peter welsh, who joins us frequently on "varney & company." welcome back, good to see you. >> good to be here. i'm sure we're going to agree that the middle class has indeed been buried. income down about $4,000 in the the last four years for middle america. i say it's because of the pills of stimulus, a massive government spending, and heavy regulation simply has not produced a robust economy which would raise the middle glass. it's subdued the middle class. what's your explanation. >> well, i mean, that's the debate between governor romney and president obama. i mean, you're right. and that's the middle class is really struggling. something that's been true really for 30 years, when you look past what's happened in the middle class the last 30 years, it's basically treading water and it's gotten much tougher in the past four
and the obama years, that would be. he later tried to walk the statement back, saying the middle class was buried by policies supported by mitt romney and paul ryan. joining us now is congressman peter welsh, who joins us frequently on "varney & company." welcome back, good to see you. >> good to be here. i'm sure we're going to agree that the middle class has indeed been buried. income down about $4,000 in the the last four years for middle america. i say it's because of...
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buried by obama? >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. >> reporter: that's the kind of zinger sure to be heard at debate number one. i'm steve handelsman, nbc news, denver, colorado. >>> and of course tonight nbc is going to have complete coverage of this first presidential debate anchored by brian williams along the best political team in the business. it all starts at 9:00 p.m. eastern, 6:00 p.m. pacific. >>> elsewhere, a judge in pennsylvania has blocked the state's stricter voter i.d. law from taking effect this november. after weeks of protests, the ruling means that voters in pennsylvania will not have to show a state approved i.d. to cast ballots on election day. the judge said he was concerned that the law could prevent some people from voting. stricter voter i.d. laws in four states remain, but tougher laws in a
buried by obama? >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. >> reporter: that's the kind of zinger sure to be heard at debate number one. i'm steve handelsman, nbc news, denver, colorado. >>> and of course tonight nbc is going to have complete coverage of this first presidential debate anchored by...
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that's a state where president obama only won by 14,000 votes four years ago. there's many more hispanic voters than that. i think the philosophy or the strategy for the romney camp i to try to win some of those voters back. they're doing it by going on the air with advertising. a lot of the advertising is advertising introducing mitt romney to voters because aate lot of people don't know him. biographical ads. you have some with his son craig who is a fluent spanish speaker, speaking directly to hispanics. that's very important. he does that. then you've also got some ads where they talk about an ad they call the truth. they try to tell what they see as the truth about president obama where he's fallen short. they're trying to sell that kind of three-pronged message to hispanics in raleigh and try to win some of tho votes >> woodruff: this is a message that is specifically tailored to the latino, to the hispanic community some >> yes. i think all of his... most of his ads are although i've talked to some analysts who have been somewhat critical of the romney c
that's a state where president obama only won by 14,000 votes four years ago. there's many more hispanic voters than that. i think the philosophy or the strategy for the romney camp i to try to win some of those voters back. they're doing it by going on the air with advertising. a lot of the advertising is advertising introducing mitt romney to voters because aate lot of people don't know him. biographical ads. you have some with his son craig who is a fluent spanish speaker, speaking directly...
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it will be significant if obama is re-elected next year. >> bret: rick? >> if it was going to be just the economy, stupid, we would have seen that in the polling. people factored in, to large extent what they feel about the economy and they have decided either you go with the president or you're not. that is not enough. i think we were stupid to think it's just the economy, stupid. the through line with the stories that you cite there is an argument here to make about the president's management and leadership. that is the thing that unites all we talk about with the foreign policy and domestic policy and fast and furious. if romney were to make the turn, natural closing place for the argument to be. i've been making the case about the economy for yea year-and-a-half. but it's more than that. that is the romney to look for in debate stage wednesday night. you have to be aggressive and pivot point of the campaign. there hasn't been storylines breaking romney's way for the last couple of weeks. >> bret: yeah. gdp revision on 1.3% didn't get a ton of coverage
it will be significant if obama is re-elected next year. >> bret: rick? >> if it was going to be just the economy, stupid, we would have seen that in the polling. people factored in, to large extent what they feel about the economy and they have decided either you go with the president or you're not. that is not enough. i think we were stupid to think it's just the economy, stupid. the through line with the stories that you cite there is an argument here to make about the...
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that was arguably more difficult year for republicans. he has raised $40 million. within the campaign, on the high end, the reverse has happened. barack obama is raising less money than needed in 2008 as a sitting president appeared in 2008 it was $2,300 the max you could give up. this cycle is $2,500. at the end of august obama had raised 16 sermon from -- 16% from that group. romney is good at raising money to in part with $2,500. he has raised $102 million through the end of august from people who had maxed out on their donations. that is reflected in the super pacs. they give the max to him, but sold from their friends and colleagues. then they write a check for $100,000 or $200,000 or more to one of the super pacs. what does this mean for politics? does this increase transform politics going forward? it is a little complicated. one of the driving forces behind this but that some lower court decisions which allow outside money much easier access for airwaves. the barriers that were there in the post-watergate era that prevented corporations and people from pull
that was arguably more difficult year for republicans. he has raised $40 million. within the campaign, on the high end, the reverse has happened. barack obama is raising less money than needed in 2008 as a sitting president appeared in 2008 it was $2,300 the max you could give up. this cycle is $2,500. at the end of august obama had raised 16 sermon from -- 16% from that group. romney is good at raising money to in part with $2,500. he has raised $102 million through the end of august from...
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president obama held more than 30 campaign events on college campuses this year. he'll fly to the buckeye state from california where he wrapped up a lucrative fund-raising trip last night in san francisco. >>> another death linked to that meningitis outbreak. the centers for disease control says at least 105 people have been sickened by that rare fungal infection. nine people are dead, two of those deaths were in maryland and virginia. health officials linked the outbreak to steroid shots used for back pain. the shots were made by a speclty pharmacy in massachusetts. the cdc telling doctors, stop using any drugs made by that pharmacy. this form of meningitis is not contagious. >>> check your freezer. giant is voluntarily recalling a popular gelato because of a possible salmonella contamination related to peanut butter. talenti cook lat peanut butter cup gelato. take your receipt to giant for a full refund. at least 35 salmonella cases in 19 states including maryland and virginia are linked to a peanut company in new mexico. sunland shut down its plant after fda c
president obama held more than 30 campaign events on college campuses this year. he'll fly to the buckeye state from california where he wrapped up a lucrative fund-raising trip last night in san francisco. >>> another death linked to that meningitis outbreak. the centers for disease control says at least 105 people have been sickened by that rare fungal infection. nine people are dead, two of those deaths were in maryland and virginia. health officials linked the outbreak to steroid...